Interview Michihiko Yanai x sunfish Yashiro x Satona Katahira x Masaru Takahashi | "Everybody is laughing at the wind and rock,"

――"Wind and Rock" celebrates its 20th anniversary. Looking back, how about it?

Sennai: "Kaze to Rock" is the 20th anniversary, the radio program "Skyrocket Company" is the 10th anniversary, and Rina Katahira is the 10th anniversary of its major debut.

All: Congratulations.

Sennai: How many years aren't it okay from the surroundings, rather than being thrilled by themselves? That's right.

Yashiro: How many years is Yu-kun's anniversary?

Sennai: It's like obsession (laughs).

Yashiro: That's the difference between kanji? (laughs). What's your obsession with?

Katahira: (laughs).

Takahashi: In the world, obsession with others in general (laughs).

Yashiro: Isn't there anything else? I'm starting to sing or debuting.

Takahashi: Since it's debut in 2010, it will be the 14th anniversary in another year.

Yashiro: Didn't there anything big in 2013?

Takahashi: It was in 2013 that we performed live at Budokan for the first time.

All: Budokan 10th Anniversary!

Takahashi: I did it! Let's go there.

Yashiro: Shall I squeeze lemon? If it's a drinking party, you'll squeeze it.

Sennai: I'm sorry, sir.

Takahashi: Is there any way to squeeze lemons at a drinking party?

Yashiro: It's a story that looked like Mr. Yanai as a woman.

Takahashi: Oh, I see.

Sennai: Only the first house was ordered first so as not to wait. This place is called "CHAOS KITCHEN" (chaos kitchen), and it is a restaurant that has a reputation for its deliciousness. Let's have a toast!

All: Toast! Congratulations.

Sennai: Let's go back to the exhibition (laughs). Parco, Shibuya, exhibition, and this floor are important.
Speaking of PARCO, Takahashi is the place where the song "Fukushore" was created.

Takahashi: It's TOKYO FM Shibuya Spanishzaka Studio.

Sennai: New Year's special program of "Kaze and Rock", New Year's Day in 2009 to New Year's Day in 2010. I was born there. While it was very cold, Takahashi went to the emergency stairs to make it. It was a live broadcast of 4 or 5 hours.

Takahashi: I think I've been doing it for about 5 hours. The email theme for that day was "What do you think is necessary to change this world?" So, while various emails came, I was doing improvisation. Mr. Yanai said, "Let's make the current song," and sang with it. But at the end, I wanted to have an ending song. I wanted you to make only that song carefully, so I left the studio for about 30 minutes or 1 hour and made it.

Yashiro: Do you have such a two-step ruin (laughs)? It's the same day to make a song properly.

Sennai: Speaking of Spanish-zaka, I don't have it right now, but it was the Spanish-zaka studio that sunfish started Skyrocket Company?

Yashiro: It's a Spanish hill. To be a little more personal story, there was Yoshimoto's theater called Shibuya Koen-dori St. Theater, where I debuted in 1997. Everyone goes shopping, eats, and talks in that area, and this street itself is a place of youth. When I started to play radio in 2013 at PARCO and Spanishzaka Studio, I felt like I had returned to my place of origin.

Sennai: It's a kind of triumphal.

Takahashi: Did you have any intention to play your own show?

Sennai: I don't think this person originally (laughs).

Yashiro: Yes (laughs).

Sennai: I'm doing it right today. I do my own program quietly, but I'm a kind person, so I'm told that I'm going to do it properly when I'm called.

Yashiro: But I've been drinking a while ago (laughs).

All: (laughs).

Photographed by Yu Takahashi

――How did each "wind and rock" start?

Sennai: If you say about "Wind and Rock", do you remember what Takahashi's beginning with "Wind and Rock"?

Takahashi: Is the first "Wind and Rock" maybe when we talked with Takeru Sato?

Sennai: Rather than "Monthly Wind and Rock", it was the first time that we met in front of Koriyama Station, the festival of "Kaze to Rock" in 2009.

Takahashi: If you get bigger, my first time is Harajuku's office. It was "Wind and Rock" too, right? I think it was my first "wind and rock" that I had a conversation with Mr. Yanai on the terrace.

Yashiro: I think Yu-kun or Yanai-san, which is strange between producers and artists, and teachers and students in terms of age, but I thought it was about the image of a teacher-study relationship.

Sennai: I'm a friend.

Takahashi: It was a new human relationship in me. I'm neither a parent nor a brother. Of course, I respect it, but I feel lonely if I get lost in my teacher-study relationship.

Sennai: I don't think it's a teacher's relationship.

Takahashi: Deeper and more important.

Yashiro: It's like a good friend.

Takahashi: But it's different from my friends.

Sennai: I'm not a brother or a cousin. I'm not a parent or child.

Takahashi: Of course, I love it, but in that sense I want to add a new title.

Katahira: It's a strange relationship.

Sennai: What is "Wind and Rock" for everyone? Atitude, a company, etc.
Rina Katahira called "Kaze to Rock Imoni-kai" in 2013, and at that time I still lived in Fukushima.

Katahira: From there, I will be able to get it out every year.

Yashiro: You played baseball, didn't you?

Sennai: I'm doing it. Rina-chan is the most serious baseball player.

Katahira: No, I don't know the rules.

Takahashi: You hit it properly, hit it.

Sennai: I'm playing baseball with a musician, but when the pitcher comes out and throws it down, I'm very angry.

Yashiro: Don't be fooled.

Katahira: No, you practiced hitting a fast ball at the batting center. But it's hard to hit the mountain.

Sennai: sunfish was a broadcaster of Radio Wind and Rock.

Yashiro: I've been doing it for about two years, and it's about 2012 and 13 years.

Takahashi: It was just when I did Budokan.

Yashiro: That's why my family and relatives came to Yu-kun's Budokan, and the last greeting was when Yanai-san or someone close to him, and at the same time, I was going to do Budokan for the first time. I was a writer of "Wind and Rock", and at the same time, I had a relationship with Masuko, an angry hairdresser, who originally had a program together on Space Shower TV, but I wonder if I could go to Budokan for work. Then, in the recording of "Wind and Rock" that I went by the writer, Mr. Yanai said that this was not how work was done, but whether I could go or not. It's a ceremonial occasion. As with Yu-kun, and angry hair Ten-san say that the live with a really close relationship is not a live performance, but a ceremonial occasion. That's why I don't have the option to go. So, I thought it would be true, so I adjusted my work.
Well, if you think of it as a ceremonial occasion, you can go there. That was what I was told by Mr. Yanai during a radio program that was involved in "Wind and Rock".

――Do you have any unforgettable memories in the city of Shibuya, an episode at Shibuya PARCO?

Sennai: I've talked about the memories of Shibuya. Rina Katahira hasn't been so long since she came to Tokyo. However, these three are the countryside of Tohoku.

Katahira: It was not Fukushima but Shibuya that did live on the street in high school for the first time.

Sennai: Oh, that's right!

Yashiro: Surprisingly!

Katahira: I went to Tokyo by Boytre, and on the way back, I tried my courage and did it at the bus terminal at the south exit, at the statue of Moyai. It's a raw sound over there.

Sennai: How was it?

Katahira: I was so scared.

Sennai: May I have a guitar case? How much did you get?

Katahira: I don't remember it, but it's about 2-3000 yen~.

Takahashi: What were you afraid of?

Katahira: I was scared of the act of doing live on the street, and I've always been wondering whether to do it or not. So I stopped trying to do my best and sat down.

Takahashi: It's not Fukushima, but Shibuya for the first time. Surprisingly, I went to Boitre (laughs).

Sennai: Did you buy clothes at Shibuya PARCO?

Katahira: I bought it. I came out of Fukushima and I didn't know where to buy clothes in Tokyo, so I bought them at PARCO for the time being. If it was Parco, I wonder if there would be fashionable clothes.

Yashiro: As I started to be an entertainer and I was able to do a lot of things like a play, I had a longing for PARCO Theater. The PARCO Theater is a great place that Koki Mitani is doing. Whether I'm a performer or a director, or a scriptwriter, I've always wanted to do it someday. I did it early at the Honda Theater and did it at Kinokuniya Hall, but it didn't reach PARCO Theater only. I haven't done that recently, but in that sense, I thought it would be PARCO someday.

Sennai: Just before PARCO closed, I had you read it in a recital called Love Letters and performed with Yoshino Kimura.

Yashiro: Great!

Photographed by Rina Katahira

Sennai: I play radio every day, are there any conditions? I heard that my mouth didn't move today.

Yashiro: That's right. After that, the condition changes depending on the director. I think there are two types of people who speak on the radio, those who are influenced by sound and those who change their way of speaking, and those who are not affected by sound, but since I entered from "SCHOOL OF LOCK!", I am relatively susceptible to sound. That's why the physical condition changes depending on how you put BGM and the director of the day.

Takahashi: Do you have anything other than your physical condition? It's mental.

Yashiro: I have Men Tal. Every occupation may be the same, but since I'm doing an evening show, I'm killing a little bit of sensitivity. Sometimes I sometimes want to cry when I listen to a song, but in such a case, if it's a radio program, I wonder if it's once a year. It's evening, so it's a program that I listen to while doing housework while working.

Sennai: I've gone and wept.

Yashiro: If Mr. Yanai comes, you'll be careless or use it. When Mr. Yanai comes, I'm crying in about 1/2. I thought that "Skyrocket Company" and other people who could exude the anxiety and stress of various jobs came.

Takahashi: When I notice, there is a person who is good at taking the button on the shirt of the heart, and it feels like his hand is put in his body.

Yashiro: I'm good at taking it off.

Sennai: Rina will start a radio program in April to commemorate the 10th anniversary.

Katahira: It begins in Fukushima.

Sennai: Do you have any advice for seniors on the radio?
When I started a radio program for the first time, there was a plan where various people would advise and I don't think I'm talking to many people, and I'm talking to one person I was told that it would not be a thing, and I got advice that I was going to talk to about five people.

Yashiro: It's a good advice for about five people.

Sennai: If you listen to the radio for a long time, it's interesting. I was told that if I spoke as usual, it sounds dark.

Yashiro: Certainly, I have to raise the tone a little. But it depends on the time of day when you air on. I think so, Mr. Rina, I'm sorry, Mr. Rina. According to the tone of Rina's voice, I wonder if the normal tone would be better if it was time after the sun fell.

Takahashi: Why are you calling Rina?

Yashiro: When I met him for the first time, he was already selling. I happened to see Rina in Fukushima at the age of 18 in the qualifying round of "SCHOOL OF LOCK!" I was still an amateur, but at that time the scenery I saw was selling already. I wonder if this person can sell it. From there, Mr. Rina. 12 years, Mr. Rina.

Katahira: I'm glad.

Sennai: In retrospect, sunfish came to "LIVE Fukushima Kaze and Rock SUPER Nomaoi" in 2011.

Yashiro: From that time on, I decided to learn about Fukushima little by little through "Wind and Rock". I didn't know Nomaoi too.

Sennai: The festival of Nomaoi in the first place.

Yashiro: The following year, I went to Nomaoi in Soma. At that time, I was taught a lot, and the live performance was good. Also, as a writer, I'm participating in the "Kaze to Rock" event, and while you're a musician, I'm wandering around and talking with director Yokokawa.

Sennai: Yes, she did a feeling couple 5 to 5.

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